Skip to main content
Sandbox Physics
Quantum physics: reading the evidence

Nobel A · Evidence and control · 1897–2022

de Broglie: a wavelength for matter, a speed for the packet

Sandbox Physics ·

What did assigning a wavelength to an electron predict, and which wave speed describes its motion?

Turn the light question around

Light had acquired particle-like energy and momentum relations. De Broglie asked whether matter, already described in terms of particles, also needed a wave description. His 1929 lecture looks back on a proposal developed before the mature wave mechanics of Schrödinger. It was a theoretical connection seeking observable consequences, not a photograph of an electron undulating through space.

The proposed wavelength supplied a scale for interference. If the electron momentum changed, the scale should change with it. That dependence creates a sharper test than noticing that a detector pattern has bright and dark regions: many apparatuses can produce structured patterns for unrelated reasons.

Read the evidence: L. de Broglie (1929), The Wave Nature of the Electron — Nobel lecture, December 12

Momentum fixes the wavelength

The first relation below uses the magnitude of momentum and Planck’s constant. For a free massive particle, momentum must be evaluated consistently with its energy: the nonrelativistic approximation is appropriate only when the kinetic energy is small compared with the rest energy. The wavelength is not the physical diameter of an electron.

A plane wave has one momentum and extends indefinitely. A localized packet requires a spread of momenta, so it has a characteristic central wavelength rather than a perfectly sharp wavelength everywhere. The existing packet Lab explores that distinction through an imposed wave equation; it is not an independent derivation of the matter-wave hypothesis.

λ=hp\lambda=\frac{h}{p}

Read the evidence: L. de Broglie (1929), The Wave Nature of the Electron — Nobel lecture, December 12

Two speeds answer two questions

A phase crest and a packet envelope need not travel together. For a narrow free-particle packet on the positive-energy relativistic branch, differentiating energy with respect to momentum gives the group velocity below. Here energy includes rest energy, the reduced Planck constant relates angular frequency to energy, and the particle mass is positive.

With that total-energy convention, the phase velocity exceeds the speed of light for a massive particle. This does not provide a faster-than-light message: a single monochromatic crest is not a localized controllable signal. Subtracting a constant rest energy changes the phase convention and phase velocity, while leaving this group-velocity derivative unchanged.

vg=dωdk=dEdp=pc2EE=p2c2+m2c4\begin{aligned}v_{\mathrm g}&=\frac{d\omega}{dk}=\frac{dE}{dp}=\frac{pc^2}{E}\\ E&=\sqrt{p^2c^2+m^2c^4}\end{aligned}

Read the evidence: L. de Broglie (1929), The Wave Nature of the Electron — Nobel lecture, December 12

A standing-wave clue, before a complete atomic theory

De Broglie related allowed orbital conditions to phase consistency around a closed path. This helped recast discrete atomic conditions as a wave question. It did not by itself determine the full hydrogen wavefunction, transition strengths or the spectra of many-electron atoms.

Later wave mechanics replaced the literal orbit picture with an eigenvalue and boundary-value problem. The hydrogen Lab belongs to that later framework. Comparing the two descriptions is useful precisely because an early suggestive argument and a complete calculation are different achievements.

Read the evidence: L. de Broglie (1929), The Wave Nature of the Electron — Nobel lecture, December 12E. Schrödinger (1926), Quantisierung als Eigenwertproblem, Erste Mitteilung, Ann. Phys. 79, 361–376 — German scan

The test needs controlled changes

Davisson and Germer’s 1927 author abstract reports electron scattering from nickel and compares the observations with wave predictions. This provides an experimental bridge for the wavelength idea. The details of crystal structure, surface preparation and angular detection require their own apparatus account, assigned to the electron-diffraction collection.

Read such evidence by asking whether the same momentum relation predicts changes across several settings after the geometry is specified. Agreement at one conveniently selected angle is weaker than a consistent dependence. A schematic ripple animation supplies neither the measured angular intensities nor their uncertainty.

Read the evidence: C. Davisson and L. H. Germer (1927), Diffraction of Electrons by a Crystal of Nickel, Phys. Rev. 30, 705 — author abstract

A wave description still needs an outcome rule

A wavelength relation does not say how an extended amplitude becomes a distribution of detection events. Born’s collision interpretation addresses that separate connection. Likewise, uncertainty is a property of state preparation and observables, not a claim that every measurement apparatus is merely too crude.

Use this article as the bridge from early atomic quantization to wave mechanics and then to probability. The historical success concerns linked quantitative predictions. It does not require treating the packet as a little material blob, nor does it settle every interpretation of the wavefunction.

Read the evidence: M. Born (1954), The Statistical Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics — Nobel lecture, December 11L. de Broglie (1929), The Wave Nature of the Electron — Nobel lecture, December 12

Sources and reading notes

We read de Broglie’s 1929 Nobel lecture by direct PDF retrieval after the browser fetch failed, and the author abstract of Davisson and Germer’s 1927 paper. Equations use modern free-particle notation; diffraction apparatus and records belong to the separate electron-diffraction path. No historical intensity curve is reconstructed.

  1. L. de Broglie (1929), The Wave Nature of the Electron — Nobel lecture, December 12
  2. C. Davisson and L. H. Germer (1927), Diffraction of Electrons by a Crystal of Nickel, Phys. Rev. 30, 705 — author abstract
  3. M. Born (1954), The Statistical Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics — Nobel lecture, December 11
  4. E. Schrödinger (1926), Quantisierung als Eigenwertproblem, Erste Mitteilung, Ann. Phys. 79, 361–376 — German scan
FeedbackSomething broken, confusing, or missing on this page?Tell us
What kind of feedback?

Sent with this page’s address, its Lab ID, the site language and your device type. Please leave out personal details. Feedback is kept for up to 12 months.Privacy policy